Comments on: An Australian Open Letter to Margaret Court http://mike.brisgeek.com/2012/01/15/an-australian-open-letter-to-margaret-court/ ...or .NET and other stuff that wouldn't fit into Mike's day job. Tue, 21 May 2013 07:00:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: MikeFitz http://mike.brisgeek.com/2012/01/15/an-australian-open-letter-to-margaret-court/#comment-420785 MikeFitz Thu, 04 Oct 2012 03:32:17 +0000 http://mike.brisgeek.com/2012/01/15/an-australian-open-letter-to-margaret-court/#comment-420785 I'm sorry to hear you are sick, David. And you're right... "there isn’t a secret anti gay or lesbian collusion out there" It's not secret; it's overt. And Margaret Court, and possibly yourself, are significant parts of it. And of course... "it doesn’t mean she doesn’t have the right to say it". She has every right to say what she does. Just as the rest of the world has every right, even a duty, to rebuke her when she does say it. I’m sorry to hear you are sick, David.

And you’re right… “there isn’t a secret anti gay or lesbian collusion out there” It’s not secret; it’s overt. And Margaret Court, and possibly yourself, are significant parts of it.

And of course… “it doesn’t mean she doesn’t have the right to say it”. She has every right to say what she does. Just as the rest of the world has every right, even a duty, to rebuke her when she does say it.

]]> By: david lawrence http://mike.brisgeek.com/2012/01/15/an-australian-open-letter-to-margaret-court/#comment-420576 david lawrence Wed, 03 Oct 2012 10:42:31 +0000 http://mike.brisgeek.com/2012/01/15/an-australian-open-letter-to-margaret-court/#comment-420576 i'm sick of all your whinging and claims that everyone hates you and "vilifies" you. everyone in this world has emotions and insecurities. some have a fear of failure others don't fit in with the main stream crowd and some are burdened with a sense of leadership whether they like it or not. Get over your reverse homophobia. there isn't a secret anti gay or lesbian collusion out there just waiting to attack you personally. If you feel insecure then you're probably insecure about yourself and who you are for a reason and that reason is probably a part of your past upbringing. I believe that we all are products of our environment. don't blame someone else if you feel bad. You have your personal beliefs and opinions and if you expose them to the public domain you may find that many people don't agree with you. It's exactly the same for Margaret Court and her stance on gay marriage or whatever! You don't have to like it but it doesn't mean she doesn't have the right to say it. If you really want to be gay then go ahead and be gay. Australia has accepted gays and lesbians. some, like me, may not agree but don't whinge like you are restrained from your personel sexual preferance. Stop blaming some one else for the failings in your own life david lawrence i’m sick of all your whinging and claims that everyone hates you and “vilifies” you. everyone in this world has emotions and insecurities. some have a fear of failure others don’t fit in with the main stream crowd and some are burdened with a sense of leadership whether they like it or not.
Get over your reverse homophobia. there isn’t a secret anti gay or lesbian collusion out there just waiting to attack you personally. If you feel insecure then you’re probably insecure about yourself and who you are for a reason and that reason is probably a part of your past upbringing. I believe that we all are products of our environment.
don’t blame someone else if you feel bad. You have your personal beliefs and opinions and if you expose them to the public domain you may find that many people don’t agree with you. It’s exactly the same for Margaret Court and her stance on gay marriage or whatever! You don’t have to like it but it doesn’t mean she doesn’t have the right to say it.
If you really want to be gay then go ahead and be gay. Australia has accepted gays and lesbians. some, like me, may not agree but don’t whinge like you are restrained from your personel sexual preferance.
Stop blaming some one else for the failings in your own life
david lawrence

]]> By: MikeFitz http://mike.brisgeek.com/2012/01/15/an-australian-open-letter-to-margaret-court/#comment-324290 MikeFitz Tue, 17 Jan 2012 03:37:19 +0000 http://mike.brisgeek.com/2012/01/15/an-australian-open-letter-to-margaret-court/#comment-324290 Thanks, Tim. It's Jane's letter and it's hard to ignore the lifetime's experience that has gone into it. Hi Warren. If that's all she says and she says it face to face to one person, then one could speculate that *might* be her position. I don't believe it is though. She puts her views forward in a very public forum, amplified by her (well-deserved) sporting reputation. This gives encouragement to many others to regard LGBT folks as "wrong-doers", "wrong-doers to be shunned", and in some unfortunate cases, "wrong-doers to be punished". Thanks, Tim. It’s Jane’s letter and it’s hard to ignore the lifetime’s experience that has gone into it.

Hi Warren. If that’s all she says and she says it face to face to one person, then one could speculate that *might* be her position.

I don’t believe it is though. She puts her views forward in a very public forum, amplified by her (well-deserved) sporting reputation. This gives encouragement to many others to regard LGBT folks as “wrong-doers”, “wrong-doers to be shunned”, and in some unfortunate cases, “wrong-doers to be punished”.

]]> By: Jeffrie Trika, You cannot disparage LGBT people and expect not to be challenged « MikeFitz with overflow bit set… http://mike.brisgeek.com/2012/01/15/an-australian-open-letter-to-margaret-court/#comment-324278 Jeffrie Trika, You cannot disparage LGBT people and expect not to be challenged « MikeFitz with overflow bit set… Tue, 17 Jan 2012 02:53:52 +0000 http://mike.brisgeek.com/2012/01/15/an-australian-open-letter-to-margaret-court/#comment-324278 [...] bit set… …or .NET and other stuff that wouldn't fit into Mike's day job. « An Australian Open Letter to Margaret Court [...] […] bit set… …or .NET and other stuff that wouldn’t fit into Mike’s day job. « An Australian Open Letter to Margaret Court […]

]]> By: Warren Mack http://mike.brisgeek.com/2012/01/15/an-australian-open-letter-to-margaret-court/#comment-323984 Warren Mack Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:44:10 +0000 http://mike.brisgeek.com/2012/01/15/an-australian-open-letter-to-margaret-court/#comment-323984 It is possible to say to an individual "what you are doing is wrong" and to also love that person. Maybe this is M Court's position. After all, the Book she relies on commands her (and everybody) to do so. Are there any supporters of gay marriage who hold the same position with respect to M Court? Or does the comment I heard some time ago ("I hate Fred Nile!") more accurately reflect the general position of the GLBT community? Meanwhile, let's all enjoy the Australian Open. It is possible to say to an individual “what you are doing is wrong” and to also love that person. Maybe this is M Court’s position. After all, the Book she relies on commands her (and everybody) to do so. Are there any supporters of gay marriage who hold the same position with respect to M Court? Or does the comment I heard some time ago (”I hate Fred Nile!”) more accurately reflect the general position of the GLBT community?
Meanwhile, let’s all enjoy the Australian Open.

]]> By: Tim McDermott http://mike.brisgeek.com/2012/01/15/an-australian-open-letter-to-margaret-court/#comment-323859 Tim McDermott Mon, 16 Jan 2012 05:16:33 +0000 http://mike.brisgeek.com/2012/01/15/an-australian-open-letter-to-margaret-court/#comment-323859 Couldn't agree more with your open letter. Margaret Court is allowed her views on gay marriage. She has gone a step further though & stated in the past that homosexuality is a choice & can be cured by prayer. This is a statement of fact & should be able to be verified. As it can't be, her views should be as marginalized as say someone who denies the holocaust. Couldn’t agree more with your open letter.
Margaret Court is allowed her views on gay marriage. She has gone a step further though & stated in the past that homosexuality is a choice & can be cured by prayer. This is a statement of fact & should be able to be verified. As it can’t be, her views should be as marginalized as say someone who denies the holocaust.

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