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	<title>Comments on: Voters: A plague on both your houses</title>
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		<title>By: MikeFitz</title>
		<link>http://mike.brisgeek.com/2010/08/22/voters-a-plague-on-both-your-houses/#comment-122142</link>
		<author>MikeFitz</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Goose, Thanks for your comment.  You are correct; calling it a protest vote is speculation. What would you call it? Perhaps "Latham Effect"? In any case, the observed 20% is not something I or the LNP scrutineer had seen in any previous election.

There may have been some similarities in Greens and Family First policies, but that certainly didn't influence the pre-election rhetoric.  The worst example of this was Wendy Francis, Family First Senate candidate for Queensland, she who equated legalising gay marriage to child abuse. In each of her weekly radio debates with Senate candidates from other minor parties, she never referred to The Greens without calling them "The Radical Greens."  She regularly said that the Greens were the greatest evil facing Australia's future. Finally, Family First placed The Greens last on their Senate Group Voting Ticket. I'd say that puts them at opposite ends of the political spectrum.

As for "political uneducation", you might have a point if referring to Australia as a whole. My observation was at one booth only. The demographics would have included lower than average number of young people, unemployed or homeless. It's a moderately well-off suburb in an outer-metropolitan area populated by teachers, nurses, tradesmen and small-business people; many within a decade of retiring age. I think these folks knew what they were doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Goose, Thanks for your comment.  You are correct; calling it a protest vote is speculation. What would you call it? Perhaps &#8220;Latham Effect&#8221;? In any case, the observed 20% is not something I or the LNP scrutineer had seen in any previous election.</p>
<p>There may have been some similarities in Greens and Family First policies, but that certainly didn&#8217;t influence the pre-election rhetoric.  The worst example of this was Wendy Francis, Family First Senate candidate for Queensland, she who equated legalising gay marriage to child abuse. In each of her weekly radio debates with Senate candidates from other minor parties, she never referred to The Greens without calling them &#8220;The Radical Greens.&#8221;  She regularly said that the Greens were the greatest evil facing Australia&#8217;s future. Finally, Family First placed The Greens last on their Senate Group Voting Ticket. I&#8217;d say that puts them at opposite ends of the political spectrum.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;political uneducation&#8221;, you might have a point if referring to Australia as a whole. My observation was at one booth only. The demographics would have included lower than average number of young people, unemployed or homeless. It&#8217;s a moderately well-off suburb in an outer-metropolitan area populated by teachers, nurses, tradesmen and small-business people; many within a decade of retiring age. I think these folks knew what they were doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Goose</title>
		<link>http://mike.brisgeek.com/2010/08/22/voters-a-plague-on-both-your-houses/#comment-122023</link>
		<author>Goose</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 04:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree about the 20% of Greens/FFP being a protest vote based upon their preferences towards each other. It may be true, but to state it in the way you have is mere speculation.
The two parties have fairly similar policies in several key areas. Refugee rights for instance. Also, care policies.
My experience as well, shows that the incredible level of political uneducation causes at least some of the informal votes; many people simply do not know how to fill out the ballots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree about the 20% of Greens/FFP being a protest vote based upon their preferences towards each other. It may be true, but to state it in the way you have is mere speculation.<br />
The two parties have fairly similar policies in several key areas. Refugee rights for instance. Also, care policies.<br />
My experience as well, shows that the incredible level of political uneducation causes at least some of the informal votes; many people simply do not know how to fill out the ballots.</p>
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		<title>By: Lad Litter</title>
		<link>http://mike.brisgeek.com/2010/08/22/voters-a-plague-on-both-your-houses/#comment-113641</link>
		<author>Lad Litter</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Green too, but not like your gob-smackingly extraordinary 20%, Mike. Last hung parliament was Victoria in 1999 and brought joy at the demise of Kennett. Just managing to hold off Abbott (if it happens) is cause for less euphoria but still something. Please put microphones in front of Barnaby Joyce at every opportunity. He could do it for us on his own</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Green too, but not like your gob-smackingly extraordinary 20%, Mike. Last hung parliament was Victoria in 1999 and brought joy at the demise of Kennett. Just managing to hold off Abbott (if it happens) is cause for less euphoria but still something. Please put microphones in front of Barnaby Joyce at every opportunity. He could do it for us on his own</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 16:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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